Cinedote Review – Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition (2016)

Summary: Fearing that the actions of Superman are left unchecked, Batman takes on the Man of Steel, while the world wrestles with what kind of a hero it really needs.

Director: Zack Snyder

Writers: Chris Terrio, David S. Goyer, Bob Kane (Batman Creator), Bill Finger (Batman Creator), Jerry Siegel (Superman Creator) and Joe Schuster (Superman Creator)

Stars: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Jesse Eisenberg, Gal Gadot and so many more!

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   This was one of the most controversial movies of 2016. Of all the things that could stir a crowd up, this superhero movie managed to surface to the top and create a splendid furry among the masses. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was the most anticipated movie that was hyped up like nothing before to propel the DCEU (DC Extended Universe) in a beautiful and graceful forward momentum. Taking place after the events of Man of Steel, this movie explores the chaotic aftershock among individuals upon realizing that Gods walk among Men. Integrating the city of Gotham into the equation, another God is also fitted into the puzzle as a nemesis that will do whatever it takes to keep the threats away from his people. While the story dives simultaneously into multiple oceans, it also manages to interweave all the storylines together and deliver a dark and riveting tale filled with dazzling destruction.

   Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was initially released in theaters after multiple scene edits. This has reduced a 3 hour movie into something with a much more reasonable screen time. It has also taken away parts of a whole that did nothing more than enhance the overall understanding of the stories being told, cut additional information on several key players and trouble the flow of a movie that had a brilliant comic book-inspired story to tell. While the movie’s direction could’ve taken a different path and focused solely on some, and not all of the sub-plots, Batman v Superman remains a fantastic and captivating addition to the DCEU. It’s main purpose lies within its introduction to a series of events that will reunite a set of characters that will later star in their own respectful movies. It also examines the relationship between individuals who see in Superman what they all deeply desire or fear. People who have not seen this film for themselves and decide to overlook it because of the relentless reviews of countless critics who did not appreciate the tone (far different from the Marvel Universe, I tell you) should check out the Ultimate Edition of this movie and judge for themselves. It is by far an even more complete and tantalizing edition that will leave you mesmerized at the sight of three of the most famous heroes in DC Comics.

Justice League (2017) will hit theaters on November 17th, 2017 and assemble Gods to face a dark and powerful threat to come. Are you ready?

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     Let’s be honest here. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was an attempt by DC to catch up on lost time. The movie itself held together a lot of stories that could’ve each easily been explored in separate, full and amazing movies. While the publicity behind it made it seem like the spotlight would be on a new-born rivalry between Batman and Superman, people will be surprised to see that Zack Snyder and company had other plans for them. The team behind this movie have rather decided on touching upon a much more different array of stories at the same time to engulf us in a universe that will quickly grow in the cinema landscape. After viewing the Ultimate Edition (might have been my third or fourth viewing by now), I can definitely admit that the whole Doomsday segment could have been scratched out of the story. This would’ve given them less reasons to cut 30 minutes of the original movie and to even focus the plot around the main villain. You know. The one that inherited Lex Corps. There was definitely plenty of content to work with, but the motive behind this movie was lost during the production. Does that really ruin the movie? Absolutely not.

     The best part of this movie was Ben Affleck. This man proved a huge fanbase wrong by putting forth one of the best Bruce Wayne/Batman performances of all time. All I’d need is one more movie starring this man (either Justice League or The Batman movie that Ben Affleck will be directing) to confirm that Ben Affleck is the best actor to have played DC’s billionaire playboy and the Dark Knight. A lot of people felt confused by the way Bruce Wayne/Batman was portrayed and had plenty of question marks on his methods and principals. I, on the other hand, thought this was the most logical and the most perfect depiction of the Caped Crusader. What we have here is a Bruce Wayne who just witnessed an alien cause immeasurable chaos while fighting off General Zod. At first glance, he knew that this was an individual that could take down the whole planet within seconds. There’s no surprise that an inner turmoil was ravaging his soul.

     Nourished by the pains of the many who have suffered and perished during that fight, anger and hate fuels Bruce Wayne to keep a close eye on the Man of Steel. To top things off, the character isn’t in his early days of crime-fighting. Over 20 years of fighting off clowns and countless criminals without ever seeing a ray of hope for Gotham have passed. One of my favourite lines of the movies is when he explains that criminals are like weed. “Pull one out, another grows in its place.” This is coming from a Bruce Wayne that has tried to bring criminals down by avoiding to take their lives away. This is coming from a Bruce Wayne that knows that hope has costed him a partner (the death of Robin) and that standing around and maintaining the same methods and tactics that have yet to show him change will lead him nowhere. Watching him drown in sorrow and wrecking havoc on criminals by tearing them to pieces was simply beautiful. His new bat-branding methods also add another level of complexity to the character by showing a vigilante that has been pushed off the edge of the cliff. Playing the judge, jury and executioner as he sends bat-branded criminals to jail (a place of redemption turned into an instant plain field for execution) just adds even more depth and mystery to a character that has simply had enough.

     Let’s not forget about the action scenes involving Batman. The warehouse one at the end was one the best highlights. Holy f*cking shit! You can tell that they drew inspiration from the Arkham video games and I absolutely loved it. It was raw, sinister and brutal. It was on-the-moment split-second decision making action sequences with clever use of the environment. That scene alone showed us a refined and aged Batman who has went through much worse in the past. And then there’s the famous Batman versus Superman scene. Yes. I know. The scene that everyone had payed to see. It definitely doesn’t take place during the entire movie. It was a condensed and intense 10 minute sequence that was absolutely satisfying to my taste. I never expected their fight to last long, based on their encounters in comic book stories. I also know that that they would never go as far as to kill each other. They were made to be friends. Does that mean that 10 minutes was too short? Hell no. That fighting scene was brilliant. Inspired slightly on The Dark Knight Returns, every single punch, shot, kick and stomp had me on the tip of my seat. I absolutely loved the part where Batman repeatedly hits a kryptonite-weakened Superman on the jaw and you slowly see Superman regain his strength. When Batman started to back up in fear, I was mind-blown. It’s these little moments that just make everything so much better. Just imagine a Batman telling himself “Fuck.” I know one thing for sure. That’s my cue to laugh out loud.

     Of course, this leads me to talk about the more infamous Martha moment. The number of times I’ve heard people dismiss the entertainment, coherence and pertinence of this movie because of that one sequence is astonishing. I’m ready to bet that half the people that complained about it didn’t even realize the coincidence. I for one did not think that was a dumb scene at all. Throughout the movie we’ve been shown Bruce Wayne having recurring nightmares about his past and his incapacity to stop the robber from taking the lives of his parents. As Batman is on the verge of erasing Superman from the face of the Earth, he’s put into a roller coaster of memories and emotions at the simple mention of his own mother’s name. To top it off, he’s also told not to let her die. A treacherous set of words that simply reminded him of his own troubling past. Tell me you wouldn’t have a moment of hesitation and deep interrogation when reminded of the one thing that has been troubling you for the past years, months, weeks or even days. Batman isn’t a creature with psychopathic traits. Deep inside he once had golden intentions and aimed to rid the streets of Gotham of all the petulant criminals by taking justice within his own hands. Is it so wrong to think that the Martha sequence brought light to this slowly-dying light within him and brought him to make a promise to Superman (saving his mother by trusting him?).

     As you might have noticed, Batman was clearly my highlight of this movie. Was he the only character that impressed me? Not at all! Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman was absolutely stunning as well. Beautiful and classy as Diana Prince, yet blood-thirsty and fiery as Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot was another actress who had remarkable screen time (even if it wasn’t often). Henry Cavill also continued to portray his character with flair and charisma; although it did feel like he didn’t bring anything new to his character or deliver the greatest performance of all time. Can’t blame the guy. Batman basically overshadowed him, to some extent. The strength that Superman showcases in this is still bewildering, but its his battle to please the population and fit in that remains the biggest attraction. His presence among humans and the fear that he installs in people brings a whole political climate on the forefront and shows us what our society would be like when dealing with the unknown. Being able to see good in others or planning two steps ahead to avoid catastrophes, Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice does an excellent job in portraying a climate of unease paralleled with veneration to a godlike figure. I do have to admit that Cavill did not get as much lines in a movie centered a lot on his actions and consequences, but I still thought that they succeeded in delivering the message through his emotions and actions instead of his words.

     Jesse Eisenberg’s portrayal of Lex Luthor was however one that was sort of badly digested by fans. On my first screening of the movie, I thought that his portrayal of a villain (Lex Luthor) who was much more emotionally-controlled and who expressed his dominance through his posture and his criminal intellect was oddly transformed. My second screening brought me realize that this was supposed to be the son of Lex Luthor and that a change in the usual characterization of the character isn’t so bad. Although he sounded and acted a lot like the Riddler, I came to admire the originality. It’s when you watch the Ultimate Edition that you get an even better idea of how much of a criminal maniac he is and how much planning went into his actions. I also liked how some of his lines were quite clever and added to his more poetical manner of speaking and seeing the world (remember that scene with the angels and demons portrait?). For example, he says “The night is here.” when he’s on the roof of the building right when he’s about to confront Superman and make him fight Batman (who had just turned the Bat signal on). Or even when he talks about the wheelchair as a “hot chair”. Yep. The same one that blows up. Lex Luther Jr. was an interesting twist to the original character and Jesse Eisenberg’s performance merits at least some applause. A brand new villain was born thanks to him.

     The movie also adds in a glimpse of the other metahumans that will soon be united for the Justice League (2017). The sequence was definitely epic and plenty will surely say that this could’ve been done in a much better and different way. I won’t disagree, but what we got felt quite satisfying. They were quick snippets of the powers that each of the soon-to-be heroes possessed. The one that I felt the most awkward about was definitely Aquaman. They might have had a little too many seconds of face time for him. I couldn’t really see any expression of disorientation in his face as he tries to understand what’s going on around him; which was probably the objective behind that video sequence. The Flash was also introduced rapidly, where he stops a hold-up without his suit on. However, this particular hero also appears in the movie by hinting us his future role in a movie with a much bigger threat. In fact, we got to see him time-travelling and attempting to warn Bruce Wayne of trouble, as well as telling him where the key to everything is. I honestly loved that he had a mechanical suit on, as if he had just tried out one of his first prototype suits that help him keep control of his energy as he attempts the impossible. This is also probably why his armor looks odd in the future DC movies. I strongly believe it’s taken directly out of the Injustice comics, for those who were curious.

     The “knightmare” sequences were also brilliantly incorporated into the movie. I especially loved that they hinted with neon lights at Darkseid with the giant omega symbol printed into the sand. If your focus was on the moving vehicles, you might have actually missed this. They also gave us a glimpse at the parademons. To some extent, you could wonder if that particular “knightmare” was a dream or even a glimpse into the future. In the end, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice was a beautiful, artistic and massive installment in the expanding DC universe. While clearly many would have preferred a much more coherent order to the release of these movies (stand-alone movies of each heroes, before the dawn of justice and the justice league), this movie still remains one of the greatest comic book movies to have released to date (of course, it’s nothing like Nolan’s Batman trilogy). Teasing us for the bigger picture and giving fans a comic book dose of ass-kicking, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is definitely a movie that should be judged for yourself. The mystery that is encrusted within each characters and the birth of a new future filled with superheroes are reasons alone to check out this movie. The Ultimate Edition containing the extra 30 minutes that were cut from the theatrical edition is without a doubt the version that everyone should watch. There’s no better feeling than having the whole picture, right?


Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) is not exactly based on any particular comic. It does draw inspiration from a number of them. Notably Justice League (Volume 1) Origin and The Dark Knight Returns. It also incorporates storyarcs from certain titles that I won’t mention because their titles are spoilers themselves. You’re free to ask me in the comic section if you’re curious about what I’m referring to.
Have you read any of those comics? Did you see the theatrical edition of the movie?
Did you give the Ultimate Edition a shot?

I’d love to talk (or fight?) about it with you! Tell me what you thought of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice! 🙂

MY OVERALL RATING: ★★★★★/

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46 thoughts on “Cinedote Review – Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition (2016)

  1. healed1337 says:

    I didn’t like the movie, but I do agree that Batman is by far the best part of the movie.
    Some people complain that Batman doesn’t kill people, and he shouldn’t have in the movie. In the really old comics though, he killed people all the time. Unlike Superman killing people (which I have a huge problem with in both this movie and Man of Steel), I’m fine with Batman killing people on occasion.
    That said, I think the Martha scene is dumb, I really didn’t like Lex Luthor’s portrayal in this movie, and Wonder Woman should have been in the movie more. Also, Batman’s line about “I thought she was with you”, when he’s the guy who’s been contacting her via e-mail, makes no sense.
    Anyway, I hated Man of Steel when I first watched it, and I still hate it now. I don’t like Batman v Superman, but I can think of a lot more that I like about it than MOS.
    Maybe the extended cut explains some of the massive plot holes in the theatrical cut, but when I didn’t really like the movie in the first place, it’s not worth it.

    I am looking forward to the Wonder Woman movie though, and I’ll look forward to hearing more about the Batman movie they’re trying to get going.

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      Indeed! Batman has “killed” in the past countless times. I also believe that most of these deaths aren’t “directly” caused by him, but he sometimes was the catalyst in the equation. Batman’s killing in this movie definitely showed us how his past methods probably felt worthless and that extreme measures were much needed nowadays. I definitely loved the surprise on screen. I also thought that the destruction that Superman caused (all those deaths) was just out of character. Sure, if I decide to let myself be immersed in Zack Snyder’s depiction of the character (much more darker than what everyone knows of Superman) it somehow makes sense that Superman’s first real fight gives us so many casualties and that this should be meant as a lesson to an alien so that he can learn to adapt. But it’s hard to even believe my theory since there hasn’t been any attempts to show that this was what they wanted us to see and feel.

      As for the “I thought she was with you” scene, I actually didn’t find it bad at all. I mean, yeh. Bruce Wayne has been in contact with Diana Prince and learned that she was immortal (over 100 years old) but that doesn’t mean that he knew her at all. He could’ve easily assumed that she was another alien that was actually still hiding among the population for all this time. Hence his assumption that Superman and Wonder Woman might have known each other before the Doomsday fight. You see what I mean?

      I totally understand that you hated Man of Steel. I wasn’t really impressed by it and didn’t find any energy in me to give it a rewatch to see what’s up (might have to give it another shot to see if it improves in my opinion). I can’t blame you for not wanting to give the Ultimate Edition a shot since the theatrical version really seemed to have disappointed you. I can guarantee that the Ultimate Edition is definitely an even better version of the movie, but I can’t say if it’s enough to change your opinion of the overall movie (especially considering your concerns of the theatrical edition that you’ve shared with me so far!).

      I’m also very hyped for Wonder Woman and The Batman movie that will hopefully happen without any problems (and without getting rushed). I’m really happy that they have Deathstroke casted for it. I REALLY hope that the script turns out satisfying enough for Ben Affleck to make the movie come to life. Definitely looking forward to all the DC movies to come! 😀

      Thanks a lot for checking out my review and sharing your thoughts with me. Means a lot! 😉

      – Lashaan

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  2. Bookstooge says:

    Oh, Spoilers for anyone else, just in case you’ve been in a cave since the 90’s, or like, not been born before then. 😉

    I liked the Ultimate Edition. A lot. That is what I bought and I can’t really recommend the theatrical compared to it.

    I did think they packed too much in. I feel that Doomsday should have had his own Superman movie. I’ve been a huge fan of Doomsday since his inception back in the 90’s and that whole storyline. I am wondering if we will see the 4 supermen like we did in the comics of Return of Superman. That would be pretty nifty.

    It feels like DC is releasing their movies VERY slowly. With Marvel, every time I turn around it is a new MCU movie, but with DC it seems like once a year, even if it isn’t. Not sure if it is marketing or buzz or what, but I don’t get that DC feels very excited about making a whole movie universe out of their comic books. It is like an add-on that they are reluctantly doing because “everyone else” is doing it.

    And thank goodness Clarke and Lois make out in the tub. It restores my faith in the Superman mythos 😀

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      Hahahaahahh your Clarke and Lois dilemma has marked me for life. Whenever I’ll see Superman get hooked up with someone else (especially Wonder Woman), I’m always going to end up laughing out loud now.

      The Ultimate Edition is definitely the better edition, especially for all the haters who didn’t feel like using any deduction to comprehend the story that was told. And I agree that Doomsday should’ve been written differently. Such a huge Superman villain that was quickly thrown into the mix just to highlight a battle between the “miniature” Justice League and Doomsday.

      Honestly, DC has SOOOOO many fantastic storyarcs that they could totally adapt on the big screen and find immense success. I also feel like they haven’t been blooming as well as they could’ve (especially when you look at Marvel and how things escalated so quickly with the launch of Iron Man). Maybe the whole Nolan trilogy was stopping them from interrupting and starting an extended universe on the big screen. Other than that, they had Green Lantern come out and quickly became one of the most hated superhero movies out there. I do hope that DC will find themselves a nice identity on the big screen and be able to honestly compete against Marvel’s set of movies. I mean, I doubt superhero movies will ever dry out. Reboots or continuations of on-going stories are here to stay.

      DC does however blow Marvel away when it comes to their TV shows. In fact, DC’s enthusiasm seems MUCH more impressive when it comes down to their TV shows. Recently, they managed to sneak another version of Superman into the TV universe. Have you seen it? You’d have to be following Supergirl though…

      – Lashaan

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  3. JJAzar says:

    What a full, thorough review. I enjoyed reading it! 😀 So do you think I should watch the Ultimate Edition rather than the Theatrical? I’m looking for the best viewing experience, considering the mixed reviews this one got from friends and family.

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  4. Beth (Reading Every Night) says:

    Great review for this film Lashaan. I haven’t actually seen Batman V Superman and honestly all the negative-ish reviews I was seeing for it didn’t really convince me to pick it up, but your review has actually made me wonder if I should give this film a chance after all. It’s great you enjoyed this film, and I love what you said about the Martha moment between both Batman and Superman because it’s something I’ve seen in a lot of other reviews but this was the first time I saw it spoken about as a positive thing you know?
    Everyone loved Wonder Woman though, and actually the trailer for her film and the Justice League one does look incredible. Guess I should watch this one before going onto the other two! 😀

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      Thank you so much Beth. I’m really, reaaaaallly happy to hear this. The critics have done TOO much damage on this movie by pouring out their biased opinion to the public. A lot of people have fell for the trap and decided to simply ignore the movie and consider it trash. I’m also really happy to hear that my take on the Martha sequence was pertinent. That particular scene had people thinking the movie was a joke just because it “seemed” stupid. But most of the people take it out of the context and a lot just follow the hate and consider it dumb without thinking twice! Wonder Woman’s trailer definitely showed GREAT promise. There’s a lot less people out there that think it will flop. If you do ever dive in BvS before checking out Wonder Woman and Justice League, I hope you will be at least entertained a little and not be greatly disappointed by the end! 😀 😀 Thank you again for showing me that there is still hope in converting those that haven’t yet seen the movies because they’ve heard too many bad things about BvS!!! 😛

      – Lashaan

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      • Beth (Reading Every Night) says:

        Honestly I’m more of a Marvel fan over DC anyways. Before it was released the trailers did look amazing but then like you said all the reviews came out and it just seemed to put me off even more. If I do get around to this movie soon I’ll definitely keep everything you said in mind. I think if I tried watching it before reading your review I would have hated it just because of all the other opinions on it already out there.
        Wonder Woman looks amazing, and I really want to go and see that so I kind of have to watch Batman V Superman before going into one of the sequel films. Now I stand a good chance of enjoying it than I did before! 😀

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        • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

          Actually, not to tell you that you don’t have to watch Batman v Superman (YOU DO! YOU DO! :D), but you actually don’t need to watch Batman v Superman for Wonder Woman I believe. Wonder Woman actually takes place back in World War I. The movie does however belong in the DCEU and probably will have something to offer towards the end (or after-credit) to connect the universe to Justice League or other movies. I’m glad to have added a more positive opinion to your bag of negative ones! I do hope when you check out the movie, you’ll be at least entertainment to some extent. 😀

          – Lashaan

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  5. Chris Evans says:

    Great, great, great overview my friend! It’s so refreshing to hear fine words from someone so like-minded in their opinion of this film. I enjoyed the theatrical edition a lot but I LOVE the Ultimate Edition, there’s definitely a sense of this is how the film was meant to be seen and experienced – the extra 30 minutes allows BvS to unfold gently and carefully as any epic should.

    I’m glad you addressed the “Martha” element, I too can’t understand why it’s drawn so much derision. It works for the reasons you explore, plus I also felt that it ‘humanised’ Superman in Bruce/Batman’s eyes. The only area our opinions differ slightly is on Doomsday, I’ve actually grown to appreciate that much more as it gives the film a real blockbuster final act, a reason for the Trinity to unite and the sacrifice of Superman validating him as a true hero in the eyes of the world (plus a cause for Bruce to be redeemed).

    I hear rumblings of a ‘rebirth’ of sorts in the DC movies and whilst some elements could prove great I just hope they don’t make things too light and lose some of the depth we’ve seen in Man of Steel and BvS. I love what Marvel do but DC/Warners shouldn’t simply copy their approach (which, especially in terms of the humour doesn’t always work out as well as you’d hope).

    Roll on November!

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      That Martha scene became a quick joke to too many people. I always ended up disappointed in the random folks I crossed paths with who ridiculize the movie just because of that scene, taken out of context. I’m glad to hear that you also share the same opinion on the overall movie and the relevance of that particular scene in destroying all the hate that Batman had towards Superman.

      Each time I watched the movie, I always ended up enjoying that “blockbuster” final act. With all the CGI effects and the massive war between the Trinity and Doomsday, I couldn’t NOT enjoy it. I mean, from the scene with Batman stuck in his Batwing saying “Shit.” to Wonder Woman giving Doomsday a smirk after he gave her a good blow, the final act was entertaining, 100%. To be honest, what I meant was simply that Doomsday could’ve been a story told differently, and in a different solo movie. What I would’ve liked (and also thought would happen) is that the trinity would be showcased through a Batman versus Superman fight. Towards the end of their fight, we’d have Wonder Woman join the fight and try to stop them, as well as try to convince them that a bigger threat is coming and requires their united force. Of course, this option is now gone hahah, Doomsday remains a fun segment in the movie, but still something that could’ve been saved up for another movie in my opinion. Definitely see what you mean about that scene, if I let myself get immersed in the movie though! 😀

      I totally agree about the whole rebirth situation. The rumors sure are circulating. I believe in Ben Affleck has a word to say about the tone of Justice League recently. It is REALLY sad. Seems like the heads at DC rather put money over identity when it comes down to the DCEU. I really hope they’d reconsider and keep the darker and heavier tone of the DC movies and not light it up with jokes and colours for the sake of matching up with Marvel. Right now, I’m looking forward to the Lego Batman movie (I know.. I know… but man.. I need more Batman in my life :D) as well as Wonder Woman in June!! But man, November can’t come any faster!!!! 😀

      Thanks again for stocking by mate. ALWAYS glad to hear from you!

      – Lashaan

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      • Chris Evans says:

        Ah, I get what you meant now about the whole Doomsday thing. Yeah that could’ve been pretty cool! I love that “sh*t” line as well ( that’s the sort of humour I prefer, simple, effective and doesn’t spoil the overall drama)…did you know that the line wasn’t scripted and was ad-libbed by Ben Affleck? Makes it even better in my books! I’m actually interested in the Lego Batman movie as well, looks like a lot of fun 🙂

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      Yes! I’m really glad to hear that I was able to reach out to the peepz who haven’t seen the movie based on bad reviews. This is one of those cases where you have to judge the movie yourself and let all the hate behind you. And if you love Batman, this definitely CAN’T be skipped! 😀 Glad to have helped you pick the extended cut version over the theatrical edition! I do hope you’ll enjoy the movie whenever you get the chance to watch it! 😀

      – Lashaan

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  6. sirmarkus80 says:

    I’m really glad you’re not just hating on the movie. I thought it was good. Not great, but definitely not bad. It was worth the ticket cost and had a lot of positives. I liked how Lex went from being a bit of a billionaire genius nerd to full on villain. I loved Affleck as Batman. He nailed it on both sides of the coin. And, I’m looking forward to Justice League. B v S was a good summer popcorn flick, and definitely didn’t deserve the giant ball of hate sent it’s way.

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      I definitely don’t hate this movie. In fact, I love it. Sure, it has flaws, but even with them, it’s still a brilliant piece of cinematic entertainment. The hate was indeed undeserved. I honestly believe that the critics have a predetermined standard regarding superhero movies, especially because of all the Marvel movies. If any superhero movie doesn’t resemble to a Marvel movie, they are most likely going to hate on it. I’m 100% looking forward to all the DC movies to come!! 😀

      – Lashaan

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  7. vybemusic says:

    I agree that Batman/Affleck was the best part of the film along with Wonder Woman. But if only Superman could smile here and there. Moreover, why on Earth did each member of the Justice League already have superhero logos in the files Wonder Woman/Batman stole? Lol, why would Lex think “let me create some logos for these guys”?

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      For sure. Superman is definitely not portrayed as that bright red and blue superhero that brings light in the darkest corners of the world. Zack Snyder’s version of Superman is much darker. One that is troubled. One that is trying hard to fit into a world of humans as an alien.

      Hhahaahh I have no answers to Luthor’s decision to give them logos. I mean, right from the start he tries to convey his conviction that metahumans (not JUST Superman) exist and need to be dealt with. I guess we can assume that his obsession had him creating files/logos/names for these heroes. I’m not sure if these logos will be integrally used for each heroes in Justice League though.

      Thanks a lot for stopping by and checking out my review. I truly appreciate that you took the time to drop a word as well! 🙂

      – Lashaan

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  8. aliciagaile says:

    It’s a shame the movie received so much criticism. I thought it was a very thought provoking, layered look at a modern world of superheroes. There is a lot going on, story wise, and personally the dream sequences were unnecessary with everything else that was going on. I liked them as individual scenes, but if I was editing for runtime those would have been the first things I’d have trimmed out.

    Lex rubbed me the wrong way the first time I saw it, but I’ve come to understand why they chose that version of a billionaire vs the more traditional suave business tycoon. It would have made him too much like Bruce since they start off having very similar views toward Superman. Still though there’s a lot of gaps in his storyline about how he finds out half of the informations needs for his big plan that frustrate me.

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    • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

      I do agree. The editing that was done for the theatrical version was horrible. Cutting out those dream sequences would have been a good way to go. They were essentially teasers for bigger things to come, but if they wanted BvS to do well in theaters, it would’ve been nice to have focused on cutting out those elements from the main story!

      I too had a hard time enjoying Lex the first time I saw the movie. It was an awkward and odd portrayal of a character that has never been known to act the way Eisenberg did. That is an interesting comparison to do. I never really saw Lex Luthor as a duplicate of a Bruce Wayne, but I guess it is possible to draw some similarities between the two if they had done a classic Lex Luthor. His plan did seem far-fetched, but I still thought the Utimate Edition covered plenty of holes for me. It can be argued that a lot more could’ve been done for the character and the way the story was told though. For what we got, the Ultimate Edition remains the best version of the movie and one that I thoroughly enjoyed! 😀

      Thank you so much for stopping by and dropping your thoughts. I really appreciate that! 😉

      – Lashaan

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      • aliciagaile says:

        The theatrical version cut some critically important scenes, especially concerning what happened in the desert. I remember being so confused about why people thought Superman slaughtered a bunch of people because he was mad Lois was in trouble. We never saw what he did with the guy who had the gun to her head, but that was a huge plot hole considering how much of the story hinged on the confusion stirred up in the desert.

        Overall I enjoy Henry Cavill’s Superman, but I do wonder why he is shown so far removed from the press. In theaters I thought it was a TERRIBLE decision to not show him helping in the aftermath of the senate hearing. Him just standing there looking upset really bothered me. I was so happy to see the scene added in the extended edition where he helps get people out.

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        • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

          I assumed Superman just showcased his sound-barrier-breaking super speed when they showed him flying off with the guy with the gun. I also thought, in a joking manner, that the mere contact between the wall and the guy when Superman tackled him would’ve been enough to kill ANY man hahah I’m surprised people actually thought Superman went on a killing spree because of that though.

          I agree! The added scenes in the senate hearing were much needed! It felt rather rushed when you think about it, especially when he flies off to become a hermit in the mountains thinking it was all his fault but not showing anything related to the casualties and him after the big boom.

          If anything, BvS got too much undeserved hate.

          – Lashaan

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          • aliciagaile says:

            It was scenes like the mountaintop scene that made me feel that at some point in development they had a really solid Superman sequel but got carried away when they realized they could use all the other major characters. The message in the scene worked really well with what Clark and Superman were wrestling with, but with all the Bruce dream sequences it probably should have been played out as a flashback or something rather than another ‘dream.’
            It’s by no means a perfect movie, but it definitely leaves room for discussion. I think unlike a lot of other superhero movies it holds up under repeat viewings better because of that.

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            • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

              Definitely! There’s enough material in this one movie to make at least 3 good separate movies. It’s unfortunate that there’s a “business” behind all this, otherwise I’m pretty sure DC movies could be something insanely spectacular and much more “deep/philosophical” than what we’ve been getting so far (something like Christopher Nolan’s vision of Batman is a good example of how dark, gritty and adult–slightly kid friendly too). I’m looking forward to see how the other directors (other than Snyder) will do with the heroes they are in charge of. Let’s see if Wonder Woman will be able to please the mass. 😀

              – Lashaan

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              • aliciagaile says:

                I find it interesting how in the animated movies they can just start with the team assembled without all the introductions and origin stories but live action doesn’t get the same pass. I’m pretty sure Wonder Woman will be awesome. It looks and sounds like a very linear storyline.

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                • Lashaan and Trang (Bookidote) says:

                  True, true. However, a lot of the animated movies are based on comic story arcs. They rarely ever need to do introductions in those cases. It’s how loyal the animated adaptations of the comic book stories are that makes them such a huge success too. But I think they did a great job in giving an origin story for Batman without going too much through the same blabla we already know about him. It was pretty well integrated. The stand-alone movies will probably dive into the origin stories of each of the heroes as well… Hopefully they don’t drag that phase of the story too long. Maybe a bit more for the heroes that people are less likely to be familiar with (Aquaman and Green Lantern, maybe?)

                  And yes! You’re right. It’s what has the hopes of so many fans so very high. Wonder Woman looks like a completely different style of cinematography compared to Man of Steel, Suicide Squad or BvS. Really excited to see if the actors and the story will both be strong on screen.

                  – Lashaan

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  9. mediocrenick says:

    I agree with you in parts…great post BTW. Personally, I liked BvS but I get why people had a problem with it…it was way too rushed…they tried to push three movies into one and that’s why it sucked…I feel like we need a proper sequel to man of steel to explore the ramifications that killing zod and destroying metropolis had on superman…because man of steel was a great movie and it’s a shame it was followed by BvS
    https://motionpictureaficionado.wordpress.com/2017/04/15/man-of-steel-2013-the-superhero-movie-we-need-but-not-the-one-we-deserve/

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    • Lashaan (Bookidote) says:

      Thank you! I definitely agree. The movie had enough content to make 3 different movies. I’m sure they could’ve nailed each of them if BvS had been split and released in an appropriate time frame. In the end, there’s no denying how they wanted to catch up to the Marvel craze in the movie business. While people might find this 3-in-1 element enough to make them not enjoy the movie, I still found myself greatly entertained throughout the whole movie. 😀 Man of Steel should’ve indeed had a Man of Steel 2 that focused on the character. They sort of preferred to include that within BvS. At least we know that they do plan on releasing a Man of Steel 2 though. It probably won’t have the plot you wish it had though! Thanks again for reading, really appreciate it! 😀

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